30 Kasım 2012 Cuma

Panama City Beach deals with Concord and AUM's ripping off residents!

To contact us Click HERE

Update:  The Concord Mgmt Reg Mgr has been instructed by the BOD to have Concord pay the bills directly, not via AUM.

Although NCC is not mentioned in the actual article you get a good idea of what the paper and the City think about how AUM (still our utility management firm) and Concord Management operate.  Take a look at the comment section and remember that there is a BOD meeting with this as one of the topics on Sat. Nov 10, 10 a.m., at the Woodlawn United Methodist Church, 219 N. Alf Coleman Rd. in PCB.
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- PCB closes loophole on water charges
Article at: http://tinyurl.com/9okjm69
By Valerie Garman / The News Herald
Published: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 at 19:34 PM.

PANAMA CITY BEACH — The Panama City Beach Council has closed a loophole on an ordinance that allowed apartment complexes to overcharge residents for city utility services.

A city investigation into individual meter readings at Stone Harbor Apartments on Alf Coleman Road showed some residents were billed $9 to $10 per 1,000 gallons of water used, nearly three times the city rate.

The ordinance, which prevents the resale of city water and sewer services by any third party, was amended at the Oct. 11 council meeting, adding language to prohibit landlords from taking utility cost from vacant units or the common areas and distributing it among tenants.

“They weren’t breaking the law, but they weren’t following what we intended the ordinance to do,” Utilities Director Al Shortt said of the complex, which outsources billing to American Utility Management (AUM). Residents “were essentially paying for stuff that should have been absorbed by the community.”
Shortt said the complex, a Concord Management property, was allowing residents to pick up the bills for vacant units and also for the irrigation water in common areas.

The amended ordinance prohibits landlords from charging any more than the city would have charged the tenant, with the exception of an administrative charge not to exceed $3.

“Having the other tenants pay what is the landlord’s obligation, the landlord is making money,” said City Attorney Doug Sale, who provided clarification at the council meeting.

The amendment to the ordinance was prompted after Councilwoman Josie Strange received complaints from residents at Stone Harbor regarding utility bills.

Although the complex runs off one master meter, AUM sets up individual meters at each unit, allowing city officials to determine that many residents were being overcharged for their usage amount.

The city sent a notice of violation and cease-and-desist order to the complex in August, requesting documentation of the actual cost of operating the utility and also information from the third-party bill processor.

Shortt said Stone Harbor residents should see a reduction in their utility bills during the next billing cycle.

“They’re well aware of what they need to do,” Shortt said of AUM. “Now that the ordinance is in place, it should take care of those issues.”
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   Comments Section: 
Waterstone Suckz · (Bill Harris, Nautilus Cove Condo)
Actually Nick, Nautilus Cove has an interesting history with AUM. We also had high bills and in my own case I found in comparing my bills over a 15 month period that the bandits at AUM had charged me for extra usage for 7 months when I was not in residence in my condo.

That is really creative bookkeeping, there were other complaints at our 168 unit condo and Concord Management made a big deal of firing AUM and going from individual billing to just an increase in condo dues to cover water and sewer.

You would think all was well since AUM was gone wouldn't you? Well 3 weeks ago I found out that for the last 4 years we were using them in secret. Right, they were fired for providing bogus bills to Owners but they really were NOT fired.

Concord Management will have some explaining to do at the Nov 10th BOD meeting. AUM is without question going this time and Concord's management contract is up next year, they won't be far behind. We don't need theives like AUM or a third rate management firm like Concord! For details see: http://nautiluscondosrules.blogspot.com/.

The Board has asked Concord to provide info as to what fee we have been paying them in secret for the last 4 years, so far Concord has managed to not provide the info to us.

Bill Harris #708 at Nautilus Cove.Posting as Waterstone Suckz -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Long
  • Finally, someone addressed this. Glad that Stone Harbor/Nautilus Cove is going to be paying their own bills now.


  • --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------





    Misc FYI: 27 pages of letters and email regarding the City taking action against AUM and Concord are at the bottom of the below referenced site, they would take up to much room to put them on top. The names and email addresses of those who complained about Stone Harbor are redacted. Direct link: http://aumsucks.blogspot.com/2012/10/posted-by-picasa.html

    An 'in house' CAM or another Management Firm?

    To contact us Click HERE
    There has been some minor interest in using an 'in house' CAM and Maintenance people rather than getting a replacement management firm to step in for Concord.  I inquired of Continental on this issue and here is the reply I got from them:

    "There are several reasons why a community should choose a management company like The Continental Group.

    First off, I will argue the savings and here’s why: there is no way that a single community, regardless of its size, can bring the resources, buying power and “clout” to the table as Continental can.

    We have the resources of 700+ CAM’s statewide and 31 CAM’s that work out of our Miramar Beach Regional Office. The Certified Vendor Program that we have incorporated assures communities that ALL vendors are licensed, insured and provide the BEST customer service or they are off the program. Our CAM’s are the highest trained and experienced in the industry and we hire only the best of the best.

    Our ValueEngineering program will give Nautilus Cove National Account buying privileges with companies such as Waste Management, Otis, AmSan to bring BETTER PRICING to your association. Just last year, we were able to save our associations millions of dollars using these vendors.

    If NCC were to hire a CAM at $50,000 per year, you would have to still pay the payroll taxes and any expenses related to that position. These expenses may include major medical insurance, additional liability insurance, uniforms, cell phones, radios, drug testing, criminal background checking, etc. All of these costs are borne by Continental PLUS reducing your expenses with the National Account program.

    One of the first things we would do for NCC is to bring in our team of insurance professionals to review and analyze your insurance program. If we cannot reduce your premium by as much as 15%, reduce your deductable while increasing your coverage, I would be very surprised. We just saved Destin Yacht Club $22,000 in insurance premiums and they only have 48 units. Imagine how much in savings there may be at NCC. The Board at The Breakers of Fort Walton Beach was self managed for 25 years. They hired us beginning October 1, 2011 and will tell you that we have saved them in excess of $100,000.00 per year.

    Now, if you/they still believe that you can save money by being self managed, then there is no convincing you. We have the best program and our growth will verify that fact.

    We would love to spend some time with your Board. If they will take the time, I will show them our program and complete a Cost Savings Analysis and show them here we can save them money."
    Nearly two years ago this firm provided a 24 page proposal for representing our condo, it is available at:  http://nccmanagementcompany.blogspot.com/. 

    I do not believe we would save any money going 'in house' as any savings there would be eaten up with higher costs for our condo insurance and contracts with suppliers.  We would not be spending more money with another firm than we spent with Concord, we would just be getting a lot better service.  I did some additional research and found other info:

    Hiring (and Firing) A Property Management Company, at this link:
    http://www.condo-owner.com/article/hiring-and-firing-a-property-management-company/  

    also these 2 sites:  http://www.hoa-condoblog.com/JBBlog42712.html

    http://www.allpropertymanagement.com/faq/hiring-a-property-manager_c7.html


    ==================================================
    What should the 2013 BOD Do?

    1)  Keep separate the duties of the Board from those of the Condo 'Officers'. The 3 member BOD should not hold all 7 offices. The Board has the overall responsibility for the Condo (hiring Mgmt firm and lawyer, approving expenditures, electing the Officers, budget etc) but the 'Officers' see to the day to day running of the condo. More Owner participation is necessary and this should not be limited to just 3 people (1 of which represents the Developer).
      2) Get rid of Concord Management, replace with a professional management firm.

    3) Change the Association attorney, the one we have now really works for the Developer.

    Noah's Ark Snowbirds

    To contact us Click HERE
    CHECK OUT OUR VACATION RENTAL WEBSITE ATWWW.THE SUMMIT414.COM

    WHAT
    Noah's Ark Snowbirds

    Where
    12902 Front Beach Road
    Panama City
    Beach, Fla.


    Email:
    Noah@NoahsArkPCB.com

    Contact:
    850-235-7801

    Visit Us Online www.noahsarkpcb.com


    Snowbird Winter Rentals

    Noah's Ark - Panama City Beach, Florida

    The Snowbird Club sponsored by the Noah's Ark Ministry is one of the oldest in the region being founded in 1973.
    Boasting some 1000 club members, winter activities are open to all winter visitors and locals. The club is led by its members, financed by it's members, and is for the recreational, social, fellowship, travel, enjoyment, and worship needs of all who participate. Facilities are provided by the Alabama West Florida Conference of the United Methodist Church. All of any creed or faith are welcome to participate in our daily activities.
    The Member Desk is open November through March 10 a/m. to 4 p.m., Monday - Friday. Potential club members can stop in anytime for info and a tour.
    The ministry is located across from the Ramada Inn at 12902 Front Beach Road on Panama City Beach.

    Included among the club activities are:

    Worship Services
    Dress Making
    Lapidary
    Photography
    Pine Needle Weaving
    Quilting
    Quilling
    Social Events
    Card Games,
    Bridge, Euchre, Pinochle, Cribbage
    Bridge Lessons
    Woodcarving
    Potato Art
    Stained Glass
    Dance Band
    Darts
    Shuffleboard
    Choir
    Bible Study
    Drama
    Birdwatching
    Kitchen band
    Writers Workshop
    Tatting
    Stitchery
    Crochet
    Dancing-line, ballroom,square dancing
    Bowling
    Decoupage
    Painting
    Acrylic, Watercolor, Oil
    Glee Club
    Barbershop Chorus
    Music Classes
    Horticulture
    Petal Porcelain


    ALL Classes and Activities available to Members of the Snowbird Club with the only additional cost for materials

    Zoo World's New Year's Treat for Animals

    To contact us Click HERE
    http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/112755369.html

    Zoo World's New Year's Treat For Animals

    Bay County- Zoo World in Panama City Beach had a special New Year’s treat for their animals on Saturday.


    Bay County- Zoo World in Panama City Beach had a special New Year’s treat for their animals on Saturday.

    Donated Christmas trees were covered with peanut butter, cheerios, and fruit roll ups as ornaments.

    Presents were even put under the tree for animals to un-wrap and play with
    Zoo World officials say that the purpose of doing this is to enrich the animals both mentally and physically.

    Stephanie Willard, the director of education at Zoo World says that each year they always put donated Christmas trees in exhibits for animals to play with, but this year they're making it special.

    "What we do usually is people donate trees and we'll throw them in and let the animals play with them. Big animals like lions and tigers like to rub on them to get the smells. Today, we're actually going to do some decorating and put some extra little treats on them," said Willard.

    Zoo World is always in need of enrichment items for the animals such as buckets, colognes, cereal, and Christmas trees when they're available.



    Posted: 6:02 PM Jan 1, 2011
    Reporter: Sandra Osborne

    29 Kasım 2012 Perşembe

    Noah's Ark Snowbirds

    To contact us Click HERE
    CHECK OUT OUR VACATION RENTAL WEBSITE ATWWW.THE SUMMIT414.COM

    WHAT
    Noah's Ark Snowbirds

    Where
    12902 Front Beach Road
    Panama City
    Beach, Fla.


    Email:
    Noah@NoahsArkPCB.com

    Contact:
    850-235-7801

    Visit Us Online www.noahsarkpcb.com


    Snowbird Winter Rentals

    Noah's Ark - Panama City Beach, Florida

    The Snowbird Club sponsored by the Noah's Ark Ministry is one of the oldest in the region being founded in 1973.
    Boasting some 1000 club members, winter activities are open to all winter visitors and locals. The club is led by its members, financed by it's members, and is for the recreational, social, fellowship, travel, enjoyment, and worship needs of all who participate. Facilities are provided by the Alabama West Florida Conference of the United Methodist Church. All of any creed or faith are welcome to participate in our daily activities.
    The Member Desk is open November through March 10 a/m. to 4 p.m., Monday - Friday. Potential club members can stop in anytime for info and a tour.
    The ministry is located across from the Ramada Inn at 12902 Front Beach Road on Panama City Beach.

    Included among the club activities are:

    Worship Services
    Dress Making
    Lapidary
    Photography
    Pine Needle Weaving
    Quilting
    Quilling
    Social Events
    Card Games,
    Bridge, Euchre, Pinochle, Cribbage
    Bridge Lessons
    Woodcarving
    Potato Art
    Stained Glass
    Dance Band
    Darts
    Shuffleboard
    Choir
    Bible Study
    Drama
    Birdwatching
    Kitchen band
    Writers Workshop
    Tatting
    Stitchery
    Crochet
    Dancing-line, ballroom,square dancing
    Bowling
    Decoupage
    Painting
    Acrylic, Watercolor, Oil
    Glee Club
    Barbershop Chorus
    Music Classes
    Horticulture
    Petal Porcelain


    ALL Classes and Activities available to Members of the Snowbird Club with the only additional cost for materials

    Zoo World's New Year's Treat for Animals

    To contact us Click HERE
    http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/112755369.html

    Zoo World's New Year's Treat For Animals

    Bay County- Zoo World in Panama City Beach had a special New Year’s treat for their animals on Saturday.


    Bay County- Zoo World in Panama City Beach had a special New Year’s treat for their animals on Saturday.

    Donated Christmas trees were covered with peanut butter, cheerios, and fruit roll ups as ornaments.

    Presents were even put under the tree for animals to un-wrap and play with
    Zoo World officials say that the purpose of doing this is to enrich the animals both mentally and physically.

    Stephanie Willard, the director of education at Zoo World says that each year they always put donated Christmas trees in exhibits for animals to play with, but this year they're making it special.

    "What we do usually is people donate trees and we'll throw them in and let the animals play with them. Big animals like lions and tigers like to rub on them to get the smells. Today, we're actually going to do some decorating and put some extra little treats on them," said Willard.

    Zoo World is always in need of enrichment items for the animals such as buckets, colognes, cereal, and Christmas trees when they're available.



    Posted: 6:02 PM Jan 1, 2011
    Reporter: Sandra Osborne

    Panama City Beach deals with Concord and AUM's ripping off residents!

    To contact us Click HERE

    Update:  The Concord Mgmt Reg Mgr has been instructed by the BOD to have Concord pay the bills directly, not via AUM.

    Although NCC is not mentioned in the actual article you get a good idea of what the paper and the City think about how AUM (still our utility management firm) and Concord Management operate.  Take a look at the comment section and remember that there is a BOD meeting with this as one of the topics on Sat. Nov 10, 10 a.m., at the Woodlawn United Methodist Church, 219 N. Alf Coleman Rd. in PCB.
     ----------------------------------------------------------------------- PCB closes loophole on water charges
    Article at: http://tinyurl.com/9okjm69
    By Valerie Garman / The News Herald
    Published: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 at 19:34 PM.

    PANAMA CITY BEACH — The Panama City Beach Council has closed a loophole on an ordinance that allowed apartment complexes to overcharge residents for city utility services.

    A city investigation into individual meter readings at Stone Harbor Apartments on Alf Coleman Road showed some residents were billed $9 to $10 per 1,000 gallons of water used, nearly three times the city rate.

    The ordinance, which prevents the resale of city water and sewer services by any third party, was amended at the Oct. 11 council meeting, adding language to prohibit landlords from taking utility cost from vacant units or the common areas and distributing it among tenants.

    “They weren’t breaking the law, but they weren’t following what we intended the ordinance to do,” Utilities Director Al Shortt said of the complex, which outsources billing to American Utility Management (AUM). Residents “were essentially paying for stuff that should have been absorbed by the community.”
    Shortt said the complex, a Concord Management property, was allowing residents to pick up the bills for vacant units and also for the irrigation water in common areas.

    The amended ordinance prohibits landlords from charging any more than the city would have charged the tenant, with the exception of an administrative charge not to exceed $3.

    “Having the other tenants pay what is the landlord’s obligation, the landlord is making money,” said City Attorney Doug Sale, who provided clarification at the council meeting.

    The amendment to the ordinance was prompted after Councilwoman Josie Strange received complaints from residents at Stone Harbor regarding utility bills.

    Although the complex runs off one master meter, AUM sets up individual meters at each unit, allowing city officials to determine that many residents were being overcharged for their usage amount.

    The city sent a notice of violation and cease-and-desist order to the complex in August, requesting documentation of the actual cost of operating the utility and also information from the third-party bill processor.

    Shortt said Stone Harbor residents should see a reduction in their utility bills during the next billing cycle.

    “They’re well aware of what they need to do,” Shortt said of AUM. “Now that the ordinance is in place, it should take care of those issues.”
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
       Comments Section: 
    Waterstone Suckz · (Bill Harris, Nautilus Cove Condo)
    Actually Nick, Nautilus Cove has an interesting history with AUM. We also had high bills and in my own case I found in comparing my bills over a 15 month period that the bandits at AUM had charged me for extra usage for 7 months when I was not in residence in my condo.

    That is really creative bookkeeping, there were other complaints at our 168 unit condo and Concord Management made a big deal of firing AUM and going from individual billing to just an increase in condo dues to cover water and sewer.

    You would think all was well since AUM was gone wouldn't you? Well 3 weeks ago I found out that for the last 4 years we were using them in secret. Right, they were fired for providing bogus bills to Owners but they really were NOT fired.

    Concord Management will have some explaining to do at the Nov 10th BOD meeting. AUM is without question going this time and Concord's management contract is up next year, they won't be far behind. We don't need theives like AUM or a third rate management firm like Concord! For details see: http://nautiluscondosrules.blogspot.com/.

    The Board has asked Concord to provide info as to what fee we have been paying them in secret for the last 4 years, so far Concord has managed to not provide the info to us.

    Bill Harris #708 at Nautilus Cove.Posting as Waterstone Suckz -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Long
  • Finally, someone addressed this. Glad that Stone Harbor/Nautilus Cove is going to be paying their own bills now.


  • --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------





    Misc FYI: 27 pages of letters and email regarding the City taking action against AUM and Concord are at the bottom of the below referenced site, they would take up to much room to put them on top. The names and email addresses of those who complained about Stone Harbor are redacted. Direct link: http://aumsucks.blogspot.com/2012/10/posted-by-picasa.html

    An 'in house' CAM or another Management Firm?

    To contact us Click HERE
    There has been some minor interest in using an 'in house' CAM and Maintenance people rather than getting a replacement management firm to step in for Concord.  I inquired of Continental on this issue and here is the reply I got from them:

    "There are several reasons why a community should choose a management company like The Continental Group.

    First off, I will argue the savings and here’s why: there is no way that a single community, regardless of its size, can bring the resources, buying power and “clout” to the table as Continental can.

    We have the resources of 700+ CAM’s statewide and 31 CAM’s that work out of our Miramar Beach Regional Office. The Certified Vendor Program that we have incorporated assures communities that ALL vendors are licensed, insured and provide the BEST customer service or they are off the program. Our CAM’s are the highest trained and experienced in the industry and we hire only the best of the best.

    Our ValueEngineering program will give Nautilus Cove National Account buying privileges with companies such as Waste Management, Otis, AmSan to bring BETTER PRICING to your association. Just last year, we were able to save our associations millions of dollars using these vendors.

    If NCC were to hire a CAM at $50,000 per year, you would have to still pay the payroll taxes and any expenses related to that position. These expenses may include major medical insurance, additional liability insurance, uniforms, cell phones, radios, drug testing, criminal background checking, etc. All of these costs are borne by Continental PLUS reducing your expenses with the National Account program.

    One of the first things we would do for NCC is to bring in our team of insurance professionals to review and analyze your insurance program. If we cannot reduce your premium by as much as 15%, reduce your deductable while increasing your coverage, I would be very surprised. We just saved Destin Yacht Club $22,000 in insurance premiums and they only have 48 units. Imagine how much in savings there may be at NCC. The Board at The Breakers of Fort Walton Beach was self managed for 25 years. They hired us beginning October 1, 2011 and will tell you that we have saved them in excess of $100,000.00 per year.

    Now, if you/they still believe that you can save money by being self managed, then there is no convincing you. We have the best program and our growth will verify that fact.

    We would love to spend some time with your Board. If they will take the time, I will show them our program and complete a Cost Savings Analysis and show them here we can save them money."
    Nearly two years ago this firm provided a 24 page proposal for representing our condo, it is available at:  http://nccmanagementcompany.blogspot.com/. 

    I do not believe we would save any money going 'in house' as any savings there would be eaten up with higher costs for our condo insurance and contracts with suppliers.  We would not be spending more money with another firm than we spent with Concord, we would just be getting a lot better service.  I did some additional research and found other info:

    Hiring (and Firing) A Property Management Company, at this link:
    http://www.condo-owner.com/article/hiring-and-firing-a-property-management-company/  

    also these 2 sites:  http://www.hoa-condoblog.com/JBBlog42712.html

    http://www.allpropertymanagement.com/faq/hiring-a-property-manager_c7.html


    ==================================================
    What should the 2013 BOD Do?

    1)  Keep separate the duties of the Board from those of the Condo 'Officers'. The 3 member BOD should not hold all 7 offices. The Board has the overall responsibility for the Condo (hiring Mgmt firm and lawyer, approving expenditures, electing the Officers, budget etc) but the 'Officers' see to the day to day running of the condo. More Owner participation is necessary and this should not be limited to just 3 people (1 of which represents the Developer).
      2) Get rid of Concord Management, replace with a professional management firm.

    3) Change the Association attorney, the one we have now really works for the Developer.

    #705 goes back to Deutsche Bank

    To contact us Click HERE
    The auction of the Juan Reyes unit #705 is over and the mortgage holder Deutsche Bank simply purchased it for $20,100.  There was only one other bidder. 

    Typically the Bank will purchase these foreclosures and will bid up to the amount due on the mortgage no matter what others might bid.

    Expect the unit to now be turned over to a realtor and eventually sold for between 40-50% of the original 12/11/06 sale price of $168,200.



    Also Bank of America is just about to take back #701 from us (originally the Jarrett condo).  BofA Filed Lis Pendens 6/12/12 and entered a 'Motion for Final Judgment' on 10/30/12.  Shortly the Court will grant them title and it also will be auctioned off 30 days after that.  owed us ($14,010+), we never even came close to recovering what was owed to us by Reyes.

    If you want to keep up with the various auctions for foreclosure see:   https://www.bay.realforeclose.com/index.cfm

    To see 'Final Judgement of Foreclosure go to: http://tinyurl.com/9xsrljd

    Misc:  The units we now own and their original owners are-
    506 - Grass
    701 - Jarrett (going to auction shortly)
    401 - Thomas
    702 - Ussery
    705 - Reyes (no longer our unit)

    28 Kasım 2012 Çarşamba

    Panama City Beach deals with Concord and AUM's ripping off residents!

    To contact us Click HERE

    Update:  The Concord Mgmt Reg Mgr has been instructed by the BOD to have Concord pay the bills directly, not via AUM.

    Although NCC is not mentioned in the actual article you get a good idea of what the paper and the City think about how AUM (still our utility management firm) and Concord Management operate.  Take a look at the comment section and remember that there is a BOD meeting with this as one of the topics on Sat. Nov 10, 10 a.m., at the Woodlawn United Methodist Church, 219 N. Alf Coleman Rd. in PCB.
     ----------------------------------------------------------------------- PCB closes loophole on water charges
    Article at: http://tinyurl.com/9okjm69
    By Valerie Garman / The News Herald
    Published: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 at 19:34 PM.

    PANAMA CITY BEACH — The Panama City Beach Council has closed a loophole on an ordinance that allowed apartment complexes to overcharge residents for city utility services.

    A city investigation into individual meter readings at Stone Harbor Apartments on Alf Coleman Road showed some residents were billed $9 to $10 per 1,000 gallons of water used, nearly three times the city rate.

    The ordinance, which prevents the resale of city water and sewer services by any third party, was amended at the Oct. 11 council meeting, adding language to prohibit landlords from taking utility cost from vacant units or the common areas and distributing it among tenants.

    “They weren’t breaking the law, but they weren’t following what we intended the ordinance to do,” Utilities Director Al Shortt said of the complex, which outsources billing to American Utility Management (AUM). Residents “were essentially paying for stuff that should have been absorbed by the community.”
    Shortt said the complex, a Concord Management property, was allowing residents to pick up the bills for vacant units and also for the irrigation water in common areas.

    The amended ordinance prohibits landlords from charging any more than the city would have charged the tenant, with the exception of an administrative charge not to exceed $3.

    “Having the other tenants pay what is the landlord’s obligation, the landlord is making money,” said City Attorney Doug Sale, who provided clarification at the council meeting.

    The amendment to the ordinance was prompted after Councilwoman Josie Strange received complaints from residents at Stone Harbor regarding utility bills.

    Although the complex runs off one master meter, AUM sets up individual meters at each unit, allowing city officials to determine that many residents were being overcharged for their usage amount.

    The city sent a notice of violation and cease-and-desist order to the complex in August, requesting documentation of the actual cost of operating the utility and also information from the third-party bill processor.

    Shortt said Stone Harbor residents should see a reduction in their utility bills during the next billing cycle.

    “They’re well aware of what they need to do,” Shortt said of AUM. “Now that the ordinance is in place, it should take care of those issues.”
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
       Comments Section: 
    Waterstone Suckz · (Bill Harris, Nautilus Cove Condo)
    Actually Nick, Nautilus Cove has an interesting history with AUM. We also had high bills and in my own case I found in comparing my bills over a 15 month period that the bandits at AUM had charged me for extra usage for 7 months when I was not in residence in my condo.

    That is really creative bookkeeping, there were other complaints at our 168 unit condo and Concord Management made a big deal of firing AUM and going from individual billing to just an increase in condo dues to cover water and sewer.

    You would think all was well since AUM was gone wouldn't you? Well 3 weeks ago I found out that for the last 4 years we were using them in secret. Right, they were fired for providing bogus bills to Owners but they really were NOT fired.

    Concord Management will have some explaining to do at the Nov 10th BOD meeting. AUM is without question going this time and Concord's management contract is up next year, they won't be far behind. We don't need theives like AUM or a third rate management firm like Concord! For details see: http://nautiluscondosrules.blogspot.com/.

    The Board has asked Concord to provide info as to what fee we have been paying them in secret for the last 4 years, so far Concord has managed to not provide the info to us.

    Bill Harris #708 at Nautilus Cove.Posting as Waterstone Suckz -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Long
  • Finally, someone addressed this. Glad that Stone Harbor/Nautilus Cove is going to be paying their own bills now.


  • --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------





    Misc FYI: 27 pages of letters and email regarding the City taking action against AUM and Concord are at the bottom of the below referenced site, they would take up to much room to put them on top. The names and email addresses of those who complained about Stone Harbor are redacted. Direct link: http://aumsucks.blogspot.com/2012/10/posted-by-picasa.html

    An 'in house' CAM or another Management Firm?

    To contact us Click HERE
    There has been some minor interest in using an 'in house' CAM and Maintenance people rather than getting a replacement management firm to step in for Concord.  I inquired of Continental on this issue and here is the reply I got from them:

    "There are several reasons why a community should choose a management company like The Continental Group.

    First off, I will argue the savings and here’s why: there is no way that a single community, regardless of its size, can bring the resources, buying power and “clout” to the table as Continental can.

    We have the resources of 700+ CAM’s statewide and 31 CAM’s that work out of our Miramar Beach Regional Office. The Certified Vendor Program that we have incorporated assures communities that ALL vendors are licensed, insured and provide the BEST customer service or they are off the program. Our CAM’s are the highest trained and experienced in the industry and we hire only the best of the best.

    Our ValueEngineering program will give Nautilus Cove National Account buying privileges with companies such as Waste Management, Otis, AmSan to bring BETTER PRICING to your association. Just last year, we were able to save our associations millions of dollars using these vendors.

    If NCC were to hire a CAM at $50,000 per year, you would have to still pay the payroll taxes and any expenses related to that position. These expenses may include major medical insurance, additional liability insurance, uniforms, cell phones, radios, drug testing, criminal background checking, etc. All of these costs are borne by Continental PLUS reducing your expenses with the National Account program.

    One of the first things we would do for NCC is to bring in our team of insurance professionals to review and analyze your insurance program. If we cannot reduce your premium by as much as 15%, reduce your deductable while increasing your coverage, I would be very surprised. We just saved Destin Yacht Club $22,000 in insurance premiums and they only have 48 units. Imagine how much in savings there may be at NCC. The Board at The Breakers of Fort Walton Beach was self managed for 25 years. They hired us beginning October 1, 2011 and will tell you that we have saved them in excess of $100,000.00 per year.

    Now, if you/they still believe that you can save money by being self managed, then there is no convincing you. We have the best program and our growth will verify that fact.

    We would love to spend some time with your Board. If they will take the time, I will show them our program and complete a Cost Savings Analysis and show them here we can save them money."
    Nearly two years ago this firm provided a 24 page proposal for representing our condo, it is available at:  http://nccmanagementcompany.blogspot.com/. 

    I do not believe we would save any money going 'in house' as any savings there would be eaten up with higher costs for our condo insurance and contracts with suppliers.  We would not be spending more money with another firm than we spent with Concord, we would just be getting a lot better service.  I did some additional research and found other info:

    Hiring (and Firing) A Property Management Company, at this link:
    http://www.condo-owner.com/article/hiring-and-firing-a-property-management-company/  

    also these 2 sites:  http://www.hoa-condoblog.com/JBBlog42712.html

    http://www.allpropertymanagement.com/faq/hiring-a-property-manager_c7.html


    ==================================================
    What should the 2013 BOD Do?

    1)  Keep separate the duties of the Board from those of the Condo 'Officers'. The 3 member BOD should not hold all 7 offices. The Board has the overall responsibility for the Condo (hiring Mgmt firm and lawyer, approving expenditures, electing the Officers, budget etc) but the 'Officers' see to the day to day running of the condo. More Owner participation is necessary and this should not be limited to just 3 people (1 of which represents the Developer).
      2) Get rid of Concord Management, replace with a professional management firm.

    3) Change the Association attorney, the one we have now really works for the Developer.

    Noah's Ark Snowbirds

    To contact us Click HERE
    CHECK OUT OUR VACATION RENTAL WEBSITE ATWWW.THE SUMMIT414.COM

    WHAT
    Noah's Ark Snowbirds

    Where
    12902 Front Beach Road
    Panama City
    Beach, Fla.


    Email:
    Noah@NoahsArkPCB.com

    Contact:
    850-235-7801

    Visit Us Online www.noahsarkpcb.com


    Snowbird Winter Rentals

    Noah's Ark - Panama City Beach, Florida

    The Snowbird Club sponsored by the Noah's Ark Ministry is one of the oldest in the region being founded in 1973.
    Boasting some 1000 club members, winter activities are open to all winter visitors and locals. The club is led by its members, financed by it's members, and is for the recreational, social, fellowship, travel, enjoyment, and worship needs of all who participate. Facilities are provided by the Alabama West Florida Conference of the United Methodist Church. All of any creed or faith are welcome to participate in our daily activities.
    The Member Desk is open November through March 10 a/m. to 4 p.m., Monday - Friday. Potential club members can stop in anytime for info and a tour.
    The ministry is located across from the Ramada Inn at 12902 Front Beach Road on Panama City Beach.

    Included among the club activities are:

    Worship Services
    Dress Making
    Lapidary
    Photography
    Pine Needle Weaving
    Quilting
    Quilling
    Social Events
    Card Games,
    Bridge, Euchre, Pinochle, Cribbage
    Bridge Lessons
    Woodcarving
    Potato Art
    Stained Glass
    Dance Band
    Darts
    Shuffleboard
    Choir
    Bible Study
    Drama
    Birdwatching
    Kitchen band
    Writers Workshop
    Tatting
    Stitchery
    Crochet
    Dancing-line, ballroom,square dancing
    Bowling
    Decoupage
    Painting
    Acrylic, Watercolor, Oil
    Glee Club
    Barbershop Chorus
    Music Classes
    Horticulture
    Petal Porcelain


    ALL Classes and Activities available to Members of the Snowbird Club with the only additional cost for materials

    Zoo World's New Year's Treat for Animals

    To contact us Click HERE
    http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/112755369.html

    Zoo World's New Year's Treat For Animals

    Bay County- Zoo World in Panama City Beach had a special New Year’s treat for their animals on Saturday.


    Bay County- Zoo World in Panama City Beach had a special New Year’s treat for their animals on Saturday.

    Donated Christmas trees were covered with peanut butter, cheerios, and fruit roll ups as ornaments.

    Presents were even put under the tree for animals to un-wrap and play with
    Zoo World officials say that the purpose of doing this is to enrich the animals both mentally and physically.

    Stephanie Willard, the director of education at Zoo World says that each year they always put donated Christmas trees in exhibits for animals to play with, but this year they're making it special.

    "What we do usually is people donate trees and we'll throw them in and let the animals play with them. Big animals like lions and tigers like to rub on them to get the smells. Today, we're actually going to do some decorating and put some extra little treats on them," said Willard.

    Zoo World is always in need of enrichment items for the animals such as buckets, colognes, cereal, and Christmas trees when they're available.



    Posted: 6:02 PM Jan 1, 2011
    Reporter: Sandra Osborne

    27 Kasım 2012 Salı

    Panama City Beach deals with Concord and AUM's ripping off residents!

    To contact us Click HERE

    Update:  The Concord Mgmt Reg Mgr has been instructed by the BOD to have Concord pay the bills directly, not via AUM.

    Although NCC is not mentioned in the actual article you get a good idea of what the paper and the City think about how AUM (still our utility management firm) and Concord Management operate.  Take a look at the comment section and remember that there is a BOD meeting with this as one of the topics on Sat. Nov 10, 10 a.m., at the Woodlawn United Methodist Church, 219 N. Alf Coleman Rd. in PCB.
     ----------------------------------------------------------------------- PCB closes loophole on water charges
    Article at: http://tinyurl.com/9okjm69
    By Valerie Garman / The News Herald
    Published: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 at 19:34 PM.

    PANAMA CITY BEACH — The Panama City Beach Council has closed a loophole on an ordinance that allowed apartment complexes to overcharge residents for city utility services.

    A city investigation into individual meter readings at Stone Harbor Apartments on Alf Coleman Road showed some residents were billed $9 to $10 per 1,000 gallons of water used, nearly three times the city rate.

    The ordinance, which prevents the resale of city water and sewer services by any third party, was amended at the Oct. 11 council meeting, adding language to prohibit landlords from taking utility cost from vacant units or the common areas and distributing it among tenants.

    “They weren’t breaking the law, but they weren’t following what we intended the ordinance to do,” Utilities Director Al Shortt said of the complex, which outsources billing to American Utility Management (AUM). Residents “were essentially paying for stuff that should have been absorbed by the community.”
    Shortt said the complex, a Concord Management property, was allowing residents to pick up the bills for vacant units and also for the irrigation water in common areas.

    The amended ordinance prohibits landlords from charging any more than the city would have charged the tenant, with the exception of an administrative charge not to exceed $3.

    “Having the other tenants pay what is the landlord’s obligation, the landlord is making money,” said City Attorney Doug Sale, who provided clarification at the council meeting.

    The amendment to the ordinance was prompted after Councilwoman Josie Strange received complaints from residents at Stone Harbor regarding utility bills.

    Although the complex runs off one master meter, AUM sets up individual meters at each unit, allowing city officials to determine that many residents were being overcharged for their usage amount.

    The city sent a notice of violation and cease-and-desist order to the complex in August, requesting documentation of the actual cost of operating the utility and also information from the third-party bill processor.

    Shortt said Stone Harbor residents should see a reduction in their utility bills during the next billing cycle.

    “They’re well aware of what they need to do,” Shortt said of AUM. “Now that the ordinance is in place, it should take care of those issues.”
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
       Comments Section: 
    Waterstone Suckz · (Bill Harris, Nautilus Cove Condo)
    Actually Nick, Nautilus Cove has an interesting history with AUM. We also had high bills and in my own case I found in comparing my bills over a 15 month period that the bandits at AUM had charged me for extra usage for 7 months when I was not in residence in my condo.

    That is really creative bookkeeping, there were other complaints at our 168 unit condo and Concord Management made a big deal of firing AUM and going from individual billing to just an increase in condo dues to cover water and sewer.

    You would think all was well since AUM was gone wouldn't you? Well 3 weeks ago I found out that for the last 4 years we were using them in secret. Right, they were fired for providing bogus bills to Owners but they really were NOT fired.

    Concord Management will have some explaining to do at the Nov 10th BOD meeting. AUM is without question going this time and Concord's management contract is up next year, they won't be far behind. We don't need theives like AUM or a third rate management firm like Concord! For details see: http://nautiluscondosrules.blogspot.com/.

    The Board has asked Concord to provide info as to what fee we have been paying them in secret for the last 4 years, so far Concord has managed to not provide the info to us.

    Bill Harris #708 at Nautilus Cove.Posting as Waterstone Suckz -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Long
  • Finally, someone addressed this. Glad that Stone Harbor/Nautilus Cove is going to be paying their own bills now.


  • --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------





    Misc FYI: 27 pages of letters and email regarding the City taking action against AUM and Concord are at the bottom of the below referenced site, they would take up to much room to put them on top. The names and email addresses of those who complained about Stone Harbor are redacted. Direct link: http://aumsucks.blogspot.com/2012/10/posted-by-picasa.html

    An 'in house' CAM or another Management Firm?

    To contact us Click HERE
    There has been some minor interest in using an 'in house' CAM and Maintenance people rather than getting a replacement management firm to step in for Concord.  I inquired of Continental on this issue and here is the reply I got from them:

    "There are several reasons why a community should choose a management company like The Continental Group.

    First off, I will argue the savings and here’s why: there is no way that a single community, regardless of its size, can bring the resources, buying power and “clout” to the table as Continental can.

    We have the resources of 700+ CAM’s statewide and 31 CAM’s that work out of our Miramar Beach Regional Office. The Certified Vendor Program that we have incorporated assures communities that ALL vendors are licensed, insured and provide the BEST customer service or they are off the program. Our CAM’s are the highest trained and experienced in the industry and we hire only the best of the best.

    Our ValueEngineering program will give Nautilus Cove National Account buying privileges with companies such as Waste Management, Otis, AmSan to bring BETTER PRICING to your association. Just last year, we were able to save our associations millions of dollars using these vendors.

    If NCC were to hire a CAM at $50,000 per year, you would have to still pay the payroll taxes and any expenses related to that position. These expenses may include major medical insurance, additional liability insurance, uniforms, cell phones, radios, drug testing, criminal background checking, etc. All of these costs are borne by Continental PLUS reducing your expenses with the National Account program.

    One of the first things we would do for NCC is to bring in our team of insurance professionals to review and analyze your insurance program. If we cannot reduce your premium by as much as 15%, reduce your deductable while increasing your coverage, I would be very surprised. We just saved Destin Yacht Club $22,000 in insurance premiums and they only have 48 units. Imagine how much in savings there may be at NCC. The Board at The Breakers of Fort Walton Beach was self managed for 25 years. They hired us beginning October 1, 2011 and will tell you that we have saved them in excess of $100,000.00 per year.

    Now, if you/they still believe that you can save money by being self managed, then there is no convincing you. We have the best program and our growth will verify that fact.

    We would love to spend some time with your Board. If they will take the time, I will show them our program and complete a Cost Savings Analysis and show them here we can save them money."
    Nearly two years ago this firm provided a 24 page proposal for representing our condo, it is available at:  http://nccmanagementcompany.blogspot.com/. 

    I do not believe we would save any money going 'in house' as any savings there would be eaten up with higher costs for our condo insurance and contracts with suppliers.  We would not be spending more money with another firm than we spent with Concord, we would just be getting a lot better service.  I did some additional research and found other info:

    Hiring (and Firing) A Property Management Company, at this link:
    http://www.condo-owner.com/article/hiring-and-firing-a-property-management-company/  

    also these 2 sites:  http://www.hoa-condoblog.com/JBBlog42712.html

    http://www.allpropertymanagement.com/faq/hiring-a-property-manager_c7.html


    ==================================================
    What should the 2013 BOD Do?

    1)  Keep separate the duties of the Board from those of the Condo 'Officers'. The 3 member BOD should not hold all 7 offices. The Board has the overall responsibility for the Condo (hiring Mgmt firm and lawyer, approving expenditures, electing the Officers, budget etc) but the 'Officers' see to the day to day running of the condo. More Owner participation is necessary and this should not be limited to just 3 people (1 of which represents the Developer).
      2) Get rid of Concord Management, replace with a professional management firm.

    3) Change the Association attorney, the one we have now really works for the Developer.

    Entry Gate Options -

    To contact us Click HERE
    NCC has a functioning call box at the entry gate that will be put back in use. It allows a visitor to look up a resident by name. The visitor selects that name which calls the resident's phone (cell or land line). The resident then selects "9" on their phone key pad. This opens the gate.

    This can be done from anywhere, even if you are not at home. So, if you have a delivery and are at work or vacation, the gate can still be opened.The condo is looking for input on these 2 below options for access via the front gate.

    Currently, access to the property can be obtained with a pass code, swipe card, or beeper.

    1. Gate Entry Option 1:
    Entry to the property would be gained through the use of swipe cards, beepers, and the call box. No entry codes would be provided. Anyone visiting without a swipe card would simply call the owner through the call box and be beeped in. Remember this can be done from anywhere.


    2. Gate Entry Option 2:
    Entry to the property would be gained using an access code. This access code would be changed each month and provided to all current owners and residents. Swipe cards and beepers (for owners only), and the call box would also access the property.


    Misc Note:  Neither of the plans will stop vehicles without any beeper, card or code from simply waiting until another vehicle opens the gate and the second vehicle also drives onto the property.  A quicker closing time might be an option but a closing gate damaging any vehicle will probably result in a claim for damage done.

    Noah's Ark Snowbirds

    To contact us Click HERE
    CHECK OUT OUR VACATION RENTAL WEBSITE ATWWW.THE SUMMIT414.COM

    WHAT
    Noah's Ark Snowbirds

    Where
    12902 Front Beach Road
    Panama City
    Beach, Fla.


    Email:
    Noah@NoahsArkPCB.com

    Contact:
    850-235-7801

    Visit Us Online www.noahsarkpcb.com


    Snowbird Winter Rentals

    Noah's Ark - Panama City Beach, Florida

    The Snowbird Club sponsored by the Noah's Ark Ministry is one of the oldest in the region being founded in 1973.
    Boasting some 1000 club members, winter activities are open to all winter visitors and locals. The club is led by its members, financed by it's members, and is for the recreational, social, fellowship, travel, enjoyment, and worship needs of all who participate. Facilities are provided by the Alabama West Florida Conference of the United Methodist Church. All of any creed or faith are welcome to participate in our daily activities.
    The Member Desk is open November through March 10 a/m. to 4 p.m., Monday - Friday. Potential club members can stop in anytime for info and a tour.
    The ministry is located across from the Ramada Inn at 12902 Front Beach Road on Panama City Beach.

    Included among the club activities are:

    Worship Services
    Dress Making
    Lapidary
    Photography
    Pine Needle Weaving
    Quilting
    Quilling
    Social Events
    Card Games,
    Bridge, Euchre, Pinochle, Cribbage
    Bridge Lessons
    Woodcarving
    Potato Art
    Stained Glass
    Dance Band
    Darts
    Shuffleboard
    Choir
    Bible Study
    Drama
    Birdwatching
    Kitchen band
    Writers Workshop
    Tatting
    Stitchery
    Crochet
    Dancing-line, ballroom,square dancing
    Bowling
    Decoupage
    Painting
    Acrylic, Watercolor, Oil
    Glee Club
    Barbershop Chorus
    Music Classes
    Horticulture
    Petal Porcelain


    ALL Classes and Activities available to Members of the Snowbird Club with the only additional cost for materials

    Zoo World's New Year's Treat for Animals

    To contact us Click HERE
    http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/112755369.html

    Zoo World's New Year's Treat For Animals

    Bay County- Zoo World in Panama City Beach had a special New Year’s treat for their animals on Saturday.


    Bay County- Zoo World in Panama City Beach had a special New Year’s treat for their animals on Saturday.

    Donated Christmas trees were covered with peanut butter, cheerios, and fruit roll ups as ornaments.

    Presents were even put under the tree for animals to un-wrap and play with
    Zoo World officials say that the purpose of doing this is to enrich the animals both mentally and physically.

    Stephanie Willard, the director of education at Zoo World says that each year they always put donated Christmas trees in exhibits for animals to play with, but this year they're making it special.

    "What we do usually is people donate trees and we'll throw them in and let the animals play with them. Big animals like lions and tigers like to rub on them to get the smells. Today, we're actually going to do some decorating and put some extra little treats on them," said Willard.

    Zoo World is always in need of enrichment items for the animals such as buckets, colognes, cereal, and Christmas trees when they're available.



    Posted: 6:02 PM Jan 1, 2011
    Reporter: Sandra Osborne